Alex, 32, Isle of Wight
Occupation Social employee
Voting file Typically Labour, Inexperienced from time to time
Amuse bouche When Alex was a toddler, she as soon as appeared on CBeebies’ Teletubbies
Robert, 70, Isle of Wight
Occupation Artist, freelance journalist
Voting file Labour
Amuse bouche Robert used to maintain rats as pets
Robert Alex arrived later than I did. I used to be ready on a very excessive chair, which, with my little legs, was a little bit of a problem.
Alex I used to be exterior with the photographer. I joked that he’d stood us up however he was inside on a regular basis.
Robert We shared a seafood lobster platter. The largest divide was a generational one. We’re each middle-class, comparatively well-educated, pretty clever individuals. The probabilities of us falling on the ground and beating one another over the top with a croissant weren’t nice.
Alex Robert had by no means had lobster. I couldn’t inform if he was a bit anxious in the beginning, or bored. He didn’t ask me a variety of questions, however generally I believe he has a extremely heat coronary heart.
Robert I’m used to coping with people who find themselves politically concerned. Topics arose about which she actually didn’t have an opinion. I assumed I’d discover an space of controversy on the Palestine query, however she stated: “You’d have to coach me about that.” That’s uncommon within the circles I transfer in.
The large beef
Alex He stated: “Don’t go there with trans,” so I used to be like, we’ll positively go there then. I used to be introduced up in a really open family – my mum was in a relationship with a lady for a few years. I’ve a variety of associates who’re homosexual and transgender. He stated that when he was a boy, boys had been girls and boys had been ladies.
Robert It’s a phenomenon I don’t perceive. It doesn’t imply I’m not sympathetic. I’m simply ignorant with reference to trans points. I’ve recognized three or 4 individuals who modified intercourse; one who was pretty aged, and his lifetime stammer disappeared.
Alex He didn’t speak about his personal sexuality. He did say some issues that had been a bit “old-mannish” – one thing about having had numerous sexual encounters. I believe he stated he’d wish to have extra. I stated, “Proper, I don’t assume we’re right here to debate that.” He’s not married; he may very well be homosexual, however I don’t assume it was that simple.
Robert I’m as homosexual as a gang of gibbons.
Alex He actually challenged my views on the vaccine. I really feel those that wish to be vaccinated ought to be: I’m. However I hate the media in the mean time for persecuting anybody who just isn’t vaccinated. I perceive some individuals being anxious about it, and don’t really feel they need to be labelled as conspiracy theorists. Then Robert stated: “Do you assume all carers working with probably the most susceptible individuals ought to be vaccinated?” And I assumed: “Oh God, I believe I do, and I don’t wish to.”
Robert I do take delight within the establishment of the royal household. I used to be anticipating her to say they need to be elected, but it surely was the sense of privilege she objected to.
Alex They’re up to now faraway from something I’m conscious of – there’s nothing relatable. My husband grew up within the Netherlands, the place the king was a pilot with the airline KLM, and the Dutch are so happy with that.
Alex I positively gained’t go into conversations with 70-year-olds considering they’ll robotically have completely different views from me. Based mostly on age, I assumed we might be much more completely different than we had been, and I believe that was ageist.
Robert Though there was a 40-year age distinction, it actually didn’t matter. There have been issues she didn’t find out about and I did, and there have been actually issues she knew that I didn’t. Folks typically have a hard and fast view, however our dialog was extra interactive than that. Neither of us was standing on a soapbox … even when the chairs we had been sitting on felt prefer it.
Extra reporting: Rachel Obordo
Alex and Robert ate at Smoking Lobster, Cowes
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