You be the choose: I’m tremendous tidy, my girlfriend is just not. Ought to she change her methods? | Relationships

The prosecution: Dave

My girlfriend is so messy, and I can’t bear her slapdash methods – lids left off and nothing put away

I knew from the off we have been fairly completely different. Points that appear small to Abby wind me up and trigger me anxiousness. I’m tremendous tidy and for me all the pieces has its place, whereas Abby is the other. She leaves the lids off toothpaste, foods and drinks, and it baffles me – I don’t perceive why you wouldn’t put them straight again on because it retains issues contemporary.

We’ve been collectively for 18 months and moved in collectively two months in the past. I really feel I’ve to inspect what she is doing, and tidy up after her. She additionally leaves moist towels on beds after a bathe, garments in suitcases after getting back from a visit, and doesn’t put issues just like the washing away instantly.

Earlier than assembly Abby I lived in my very own house. I like being accountable for my house and would take into account myself a perfectionist. I’ve all the time appreciated coordinating my issues: a good variety of mugs and cups; Tupperware and meals categorised in line with kind (carbs, dairy, say); and all the pieces going through the entrance so you may see the labels.

I additionally be certain that my wardrobe is colour-coordinated with all of the gadgets hanging so as (jackets, trousers ) and that my desk drawers are sparse and neat. It means I don’t lose something and I don’t should stay amongst litter.

Abby hoards crap, and continually misplaces her stuff or mine; she has a drawer the place she retains all her make-up and it’s such a multitude I’ve to cease myself trying in it or I get harassed. I can’t comprehend why somebody would stay like this.

Earlier than we moved in collectively, we did a check run whereby I lived at Abby’s for a month after I was between locations. Then we lived in the identical constructing however in numerous residences for a couple of months – that was enjoyable. However now we’re bickering over tidiness. I stay my life in a really routined method. I do know I’m a bit excessive, however wouldn’t or not it’s higher if Abby adjusted her habits and have become extra like me fairly than the opposite method round?

The defence: Abby

So issues typically don’t go straight again within the drawer – it’s not the top of the world

Leaving lids off issues isn’t one thing I do consciously. Typically it backfires on me and I spill a drink or misplace the highest belonging to one thing essential however, actually, I don’t lose a lot sleep over it. Dave can’t stand it as a result of he’s extremely tidy, however after I inform him that I don’t do it deliberately he asks me to strive more durable. Typically I really feel a bit caged and managed if I’m sincere.

Dave likes all the pieces to return precisely the place it was as quickly as we’re finished utilizing it. I admit that it makes life simpler if issues are all the time in the best place, but when I’m in a rush, the garments will simply have to remain the place they’re for a short time longer as a substitute of going straight again within the drawer. It’s not the top of the world.

Dave says I hoard issues, however he’s the other and I feel that’s worse. He bins completely good garments simply to maintain issues in even numbers, and has thrown away glasses so the remaining are symmetrical in our cabinets. One time he threw away a superbly good spice jar as a result of it was a distinct model from the others. His footwear should be in a single line organised by color – black white, black white; as a substitute of cleansing them he simply throws them out once they get soiled and buys an an identical pair.

Within the toilet there’s a storage field in a cabinet containing toiletries that I can’t entry because it’s not simple to get to. However Dave retains placing the field again there as a result of he prefers the way it seems to be in that a part of the lavatory. I maintain taking the field out and he retains placing it again. It’s irritating because it’s changing into tit for tat. However the field must go the place I can entry it.

Dave had two weeks of residing by himself in our house earlier than I moved in, so perhaps it felt like me transferring into his house, although it’s ours. We had talked prematurely about what residing collectively would appear to be however there was a little bit of a conflict immediately. I’m messier than he’s – I discover it liberating to not really feel too restricted by the small stuff. Dave wants order and routine to really feel like he has management over his life. That’s not my vibe.

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The jury of Guardian readers

I’m very explicit and empathise with Dave. However such a fastidious life-style turns into its personal form of litter, and feeds extra anxiousness and a larger want for management. Maybe he and Abby could make periodic tidying and organising into shared ritual – and discover a stability the place consolation and concord don’t rely on unremitting perfection.
Daniel, 28

Dave’s habits are unreasonable, wasteful and excessive, in sharp distinction to Abby’s unmaterialistic values. Abby will probably be made to really feel more and more responsible only for being herself. – Dave ought to transfer out (and get assist).
Victoria, 66

Abby is irresponsible, however Dave’s obsession with tidiness and controlling her behaviour is extra troubling. You possibly can’t find yourself spending extra time organising life than really residing it.
Hui, 28

Dave, you selected to maneuver in collectively, so presumably you knew one thing about Abby. Weren’t you only a bit interested in her relaxed spontaneity? Finally, we are able to solely change ourselves, not others.
Jonathan, 65

It’s unhappy that Abby feels “caged and managed”, however with Dave checking up on her it’s no surprise! There should be a compromise. Maybe they need to choose a few issues that trigger him most anxiousness and Abby can work on these whereas Dave seeks assist to handle his anxiousness across the smaller stuff.
Claire, 36

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